They wont scatter very much against Tiger II or Panther turrets. There is no heat metal spear anymore. … Yah its tricky to use against heavys but especially against german heavys, you always have the mediocre turret armor to achieve penetration. Also American tiers 5 is also realy bad comparing to the other country's only M103 can be more or less due the "regular bullet" it has, in term of armor i think it is pretty good but the effect from bullets aka HEAT is pretty bad... Presicly :-/ same was me glad i have tiers 5 germans, americans and russians so i can switch easely. El videojoc està ambientat des dels anys 30 fins a la guerra de Corea. Operational and visual characteristics of the IS-1 retain the visual and operational similarities to the previous KV line of heavy tanks of which it is descended from. Most mediums only have 60-90mm armor at the sides. Feb 23, 2020 @ 5:21am leKPz M41 BR 6.7 with stock APCR??? After they are fixed and the calculated values are close to the reference values this mechanics will be tested again. HEAT rounds are available to a variety of WW2 German and Japanese vehicles, as well as higher-performance HEAT becoming available to some late French and American vehicles, as HEAT-FS rounds cannot be fired from rifled cannons. For German tanks your primary ammo is always APCBC. Except APCR of Tiger II. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. Thing is the DM isn't so detailed that you have gauges, panels blowing off inside the tank and the crew getting deaf and scared to hell when seeing somebody's head get blown off by a steel penetrator so they run out of tanks. small numbers. It can be seen as an extremely buffed up version of a M26 Pershing with a high velocity 90 mm gunand extremely tough front turret armour able to exploit hull down positions against its competitors. Churchill Russia: MiG-17, T-44-122 Premium It is one of the first American tanks to be released with the American ground tree in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". The result is a simple, yet effective anti-tank round that will punch through armour with high equivalent thickness values, while retaining reasonable post-penetration effects which, when well-placed, can deal significant internal damage to components and crew directly within the shrapnelling path. +Weak gun (Stock AP is bad vs russian 5.3) +Slow +Really slow, but can keep the pace +Side armor is a kick-off from the older sherman series-Armor is impossible to penetrate … Küldd el saját … Mitchell. I feel like some tanks are now more reliant on crew sniping to kill a tank whereas before you could at least go for an ammo rack shot. The tier 4/5 American tanks don't have a high pen and damage shot, just APCR. It has a very good 1 shot kill capability and if not, it will wreak havoc to crew and subsystems. Sub-Calibre AP rounds are, essentially, what they say on the label - the penetrator itself is of a smaller calibre than the gun barrel, using a 'sabot' to make up the calibre difference. January 21, 2021 at 5:20 pm . You need the 76 with apcr for that. But against is1, 2 and even tigers, I bounce apcr at point blank ranges. Short Answer: War Thunder is a realistic arcade game while World of Tanks is an Arcade game. Short barreled howtizers should always use HEAT as a … When to use this: When you’re at extreme ranges, or facing an enemy with armour you know … Not that I've fired single APCR from Tiger II in battle, nor the tank needs buffs, just sheer curiosity. APCR = Armor Penetrating Composite Rigid Its a metal dart shrouded in a softer metal, the metal will deform when it in the barrel to make a stronger seal between the round and the barrel itself. The first phase involved the configuration of penetration based on data from documents and firing data for each weapon and type of ammunition. Shrapnel is exclusively useful against lightly armoured targets, and shouldn't be used against front-facing armour of any other tank. They combine the anti-armour power of a standard HEAT-FS round with the anti-aircraft effectiveness of a HE-VT round. They sacrifice round velocity for long-range precision. Even when I have a straight shot it's happened several times in a row even at the sides and rear. In WW2 and mostly Korea APCR was only a type of last resort weaponry and only supplied in very! April 16, 2015 May 20, 2015. The soviet tank will the first I talk about, then German tank. If you have questions about shells, click here. They're best used against aircraft by rangefinding the aircraft in question, setting the fuse range to a reasonable assumption based on the result and leading sensibly. Utility rounds are ineffective for use against other vehicles, but provide value in some sort of utility. In WT our crews fight to the last man, often taking AP rounds through the chest and laughing it off. Armour-Piercing, Capped, Ballistic Capped (APCBC), Armour-Piercing, High-Explosive, Ballistic Capped (APHEBC), Armour-Piercing, High-Explosive, Capped, Ballistic Capped (APHECBC), Armour-Piercing, Fin-Stabilised, Discarding Sabot (APFSDS), High-Explosive Variable Time Fuse [Self-Destroying] (HE-VT*), Anti-Personnel Fragmentation Grenade (VOG), High-Explosive, Anti-Tank, Fin-Stabilized (HEAT-FS), High-Explosive, Anti-Tank, Fin-Stabilised, Proximity Fuse [Self-Destroying] (HEAT-FS VT*), Anti-Tank Guided Missile, Proximity Fuse [Self-Destroying] (ATGM-VT*), Anti-Tank Guided Missile, Tandem Charge (ATGM Tandem), [Devblog] Volumetric shells in the "Raining Fire" update, https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Tank_ammunition&oldid=75443. The first Chinese wheeled SPG in War Thunder! This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. The IS-1 stayed in service until … APHE is primarily found on Russian, German and Japanese vehicles earlier in the tech tree, and on a selection of earlier American vehicles. The fuse only activates if the shell collides with a surface of reasonable thickness, mostly dictated by shell caliber - though there are exceptions with a slower or faster fuse. War Thunder 1.55 Patch Update Info: New Desert Maps El Alamein and Tunisia. APDS is first made available on post-WW2 British vehicles, and is available to most vehicles in possession of an L7-derived cannon. HE-DF rounds are available to a number of vehicles originally designed for anti-air purposes, such as the YaG-10 (29-K) and the 8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.. APHECBC should be used preferentially and interchangeably with a high-penetration round where available. If you want shells that work and are good at killing you have to go Russain. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War … Even when I have a straight shot it's happened several times in a row even at the sides and rear. It’s not good as a primary round because its after penetration effects are limited, making it harder t… Chemical energy shells deal damage based on a chemical reaction, and unlike kinetic shells, their ability to penetrate and deal damage are unaffected by the shell's velocity. APCR, it's commonly used in modern tanks because it is deadlier than AP in real life (crappier in Blitz with reduced damage) both AP and APCR use Kinetic Energy to pen the armor APCR does a better job of it because of its lighter mass and higher velocity, both directly related to kinetic energy with the following equation: KE=1/2mv^2 m= mass v= velocity in m/s However in War Thunder … Most SAMs pack less HE filler than an HE ATGM and are only reliably effective against lightly armoured ground vehicles. Hírek; Cikkek; Média; Tudástár; Századok; Fórum; Címke: APCR. The T33 simply cant compare to that. Interested in purchasing something from the War Thunder Store? Their lower mass also caused APCR round to have worse energy retention, losing it’s penetration capability over distance faster than heavier full-caliber shells, and was more prone to ricochet, especially against sloped armour. Kinetic energy and simple physical phenomenas should be as effective as simple massive explosion. If you shoot 200+mm Shells through them, there will be no damage at all. The Assault Tank T14 is a premium rank II American heavy tank with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. The PTL02 is still in service with the Chinese PLA. Before 1.47 a direct hit to ammo racks with a HEAT round set 'em off. On paper the Panther's APCR shoud penetrate 200mm of armor at 1km. It has simply too high penetration values for its battlerating. Or it could be because the post-pen for the APCR is just busted. HESH is completely ineffective against heavy armour or composite armour designs. And Tiger IIs are everywhere. The first phase involved the configuration of penetration based on data from documents and firing data for each weapon and type of ammunition. Because the T14 has APHE and APCR, it can punch through most opposing armour, including the drivers view port on the KV-1. I don't know what to do. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews War Thunder > General Discussions > Topic Details [BTTLSTAR]IceWord. © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. Most tanks have sloped armor at that point and any that don't (like the Tiger I) know to angle the entire tank to comensate. Anti-Emplacement rounds are designed specifically for combatting emplacements, however have proven to have some anti-tank value. APCR got buffed again btw. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War … Sep 26, 2017 @ 6:37pm M4A3E2 OP? ... Good armour nice cannon with APCR and Smoke shells. Yah its tricky to use against heavys but especially against german heavys, you always have the mediocre turret armor to achieve penetration. In War Thunder, APBC is best used as a longer-range alternative to APC or APHE rounds which often exhibit less favourable ranged performance. How the sabot is handled is dependent on the type of round - it may be either discarding or non-discarding. Sadly I am going to have to park my Americans until they decide to balance things out again. What needs to happen is a limit put on APCR so you can't load up a whole bunch. Its front armour is sloped heavily at 61° for ricochet effect and ~90 mm effective armour. but right now the type bullets similar to APCR are totaly garbage and they aint doing nothing... no one fears the M26E1 premium tank or any patton aka american tanks tiers 5. It was introduced in Update 1.67 "Assault". It noted that almost all penetrating rounds (standard AP) caused fires to start. The m332 APCR is garbage. 47733101. Vehicles with rolled homogenous armour side skirts of reasonable thickness can detonate fast fuse APHE early, sometime avoiding internal damage entirely. Tanks with large or numerous modules directly behind weak spots (for example, front-mounted transmissions) can block the entire round from further penetration, or simply block the post-penetration effect from passing. Throughout the past century of tank development, a large range of ammunition types have been produced and seen combat. Seriously...we all here know how bad and good this bullets types between them...but what irritates more are the APCR and heat... due the fact we know the APCBC or APHEBC if hited sides or on weak spots they mostly 1 shot or heavely damage the tank's, at least at Arcade. It's ideally used against targets where angled performance is required and HE filler is preferable. Same thing goes for DM13 what's the Panther ammo has over 300mm penetration but it won't penetrate T-54 from point blank range. Sources: I'd gladly sacrifice 4-8mm Penetration for greater damage. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War … Sub-calibre rounds sacrifice post-penetration effectiveness for high round velocities and high penetration values. When we talk about tanks, the first things we will think about, is how powerful they are, they … Coochie Minh. VOGs are useful as a substitute to pintle-mounted machine guns, able to destroy terrain elements like bushes, trees, and buildings. Th… APCR rounds are a little better, but it still takes several hits on average to blow a rack. APDS shells are also planned to be reworked but will most likely be revised after APCR/HVAP. HE-Filled Armour-Piercing Rounds take the concept of armour-piercing rounds and add a deadly twist - a quantity of HE filler on a timed fuse, designed to explode after a successful penetration. It should be prioritised for use when penetration is highly likely, or switched for AP or APCR if improved penetration is required. EVERYWHERE. Japanese Planes: Ki-61-I Tei, A7m2, Ki-44-II Hei, Ki-44-II Otsu Germany: Ju-88A-1, Kpfw. Also, it loses velocity and penetration very quickly at longer ranges, making it not very good as a long range round. AP is a standard early World War II ammunition for many nations. ATGMs are powerful and SACLOS guided missiles are easily aimed, however they travel slowly and well-aware targets may be able to move into cover prior to the ATGM reaching them. Looks like a bug to me. APHECBC is found throughout the Russian tech tree as a high-tier round, and on some Japanese, American and German vehicles. APBC is found on some early Russian vehicles, but is relatively uncommon otherwise compared to APCBC. It’s not good as a primary round because its after penetration effects are limited, making it harder to get 1 or 2 shot kills. War Thunder. The Heavy Tank T32 is a rank V American heavy tank with a battle rating of 7.3 (AB/RB/SB). When the naval component comes out, players will be able to fly, drive, and navigate, planes, tanks, and ships in a single seamless battlefield. Anonymous 12/23/20(Wed)09:17:45 No. RAM AIR IV. After the fuse activates, the contained explosive will be ignited after passing a specified distance, resulting in significantly increased internal damage to a target. War Thunder 1.55 Patch Update Info: New Desert Maps El Alamein and Tunisia. APDS can be quite ineffective against lightly-armoured vehicles and the frontal armour of super heavy tanks. Many chemical rounds have a very low muzzle velocity, reducing their effective range but allowing the user to launch them over terrain. small numbers. HEAT Grenades are found on various light vehicles, such as the BMP-1, FIAT 6614 and Type 60 SPRG (C). Armed with a 105-mm T5E1 cannon with 63 shells available - these vehicles will undoubtedly be a formidable weapon in the hands of our more skilled players. For the Germans, aim at lower glacis or the MG gunners position and it will … This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". Yi and War Thunder My gaming experience. But no secondary damage at all. APFSDS is first made available to some late Rank V vehicles, and is often the primary round for most Rank VI or VII vehicles. A few have down right lost their minds on the forums. In … La comunitat arriba fins als 9.500.000 usuaris a Steam (2018). The PTL02 is still in service with the Chinese PLA. Though affectionately nicknamed the "Cone" due to the turret's shape, the FCM.36 was removed as a researchable vehicle from the main tech tree during Update 1.85 "Supersonic"after the ammo update that rendered its armament feeble, though it is still unlockable after reaching rank II Fren… … High-Explosive rounds are a simple shell packed full of a high-explosive material, primarily designed for anti-infantry and anti-emplacement applications. APCR is meant for situations, where normal ammo cant penetrate. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. BTW: This is why so many people find the Super Pershing Premium so underwhelming. Short distances it is a negligable difference, longer ranges the APDS will have a … The T14 looks like a really sloped Sherman, but can be seen as a weird amalgamation of a M4 Sherman's playstyle, a M4A3E2's armour, and a M10 GMC's slopes. The first Chinese wheeled SPG in War Thunder! Shots rarely scatter into shrapnels. 47733071. Smoke shells are available to various vehicles throughout most tech trees, however their effectiveness is somewhat limited compared to dedicated smoke launchers. Japanese Planes: Ki-61-I Tei, A7m2, Ki-44-II Hei, Ki-44-II Otsu Germany: Ju-88A-1, Kpfw. The APCR is subcalibre is it not? Why is it that APCR ammo what has in most cases 270mm (Tier 3-5) penetration can't penetrate e.g 120mm armor (200mm in slope). At the time of writing, the BMP-2M is the only IFV to have an automatic grenade launcher. Just a 90mm whole in the tank. This same effect can prove troublesome when a round collides on a sub-par angle or after penetration there's simply nothing within its cone of effect. It is the first unlockable IS series heavy tank. Armour-Piercing, Ballistic Capped (APBC) APBC rounds utilise a ballistic cap, designed to improve aerodynamic performance and hence round performance at longer ranges. APCR is found throughout most tech trees, most commonly available to vehicles from mid-WW2 through to early cold war vehicles. Légy te is szerkesztő! Ha úgy érzed van egy érdekes témád amit megosztanál az olvasókkal, ne habozz! War Thunder RARE Tank – M24 Chaffee TL with T45 APCR War Thunder 1.55 Tanks Gameplay – New Skins & Rare Tank! This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, Xbox One. Meant for "situations"? I'm good with the APCR and can hit all kinds of modules, but I have probably gotten one ammo rack ever with it. Originally posted by ワオqueen: -Has APCR, rendering enemies with flat armor like the tiger H1 useless Eh, even that won't pen most of the front. Guide explaining tank ammunition in war thunder. This shell is a common one, and one that is commonly used incorrectly. Despite this, most rounds can be categorised under one of two primary categories: kinetic rounds and chemical rounds; and further under a variety of subcategories. HE rounds are available to almost every vehicle in-game. Légy te is szerkesztő! Yi and War Thunder My gaming experience. War Thunder és un videojoc en línia desenvolupat per l'empresa russa Gaijin Entertainment, de combats principalment aeris i terrestres. They are generally as effective as an equivalent HE round, however have significantly lower muzzle velocity and as such are extremely inaccurate at long ranges. What makes the m82 is so awesome is its explosive filler. This self-propelled gun has good armour protection and excellent armament with its 122-mm D-49 cannon, which is a modification of the well-known D-25T, but with a higher rate of fire and its more punchy post-war APCR and HEAT ammunition, for auxiliary weapons it used two 14.5mm Vladimirov machine guns. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War to today. APCR shot is my primary ammo type because my APBC can't touch the front of a Tiger II. What anoyes me the most is the APCR or the HEAT bullets... we all know how well they penetrate, but SITUATIONS which a APCR hits a ammo depo, and it does not ammo rack that totaly Bull**** ... not sure if this bullets are broken or what... but was well shoting at enemy tank on side and the bullets get out from the other side and we do nothing at enemy tank is another Bull**** ... What anoyes me that is i dont see at least 1 response of the warthunder Dev team giving us a answer if this situation is been working or not, it is been plan something to do with this bullets to improve their effectiveness or not, seriously... and if there is a responde did appreciate a link direct to it so i could read about it... Bullets that travels over 1000 m/s even for a APCR it should wreck havock at battle field honestly...Was well at begining of Ground forces this bullets where hightly effective, but now, they totaly Trash, Unless you guys think that puting a enemy tank on fire 3 times is good enough(with a high chance to be knock out 1 shot from the enemy...) -.- ... Russians and german's are mostly played due the APCBC and APHEBC effect's and they/we all know how good they are especial at tiers IV and tiers V. While americans escept for the M82 at tiers 4(with is veary GOOD and veary bad. They can be extremely effective against aircraft if used correctly, but are mostly ineffective against armoured vehicles. When to use this: When you’re at extreme ranges, or facing an enemy … Solid AP rounds are a kinetic munition that utilise a hardened metal (often steel) shell with full-calibre diameter. The HEAT round is OKish, at least it can one-shot ammorack with well aimed shot. All types of shells explained and basic principles reviewed. Mass, shell type and hardness are constants, but velocity reduces with distance travelled and as such at longer ranges kinetic rounds will lose penetration ability and in some cases post-penetration efficacy. Reply. Machinery of War Discussion ; Ground Forces Discussion ; USA ; Medium Vehicles ; Why Easy eight's BR is higher than Tiger H1 and Panther D? Anonymous 12/23/20(Wed)09:12:35 No. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War … … Despite this, it can still be used for ranged engagements against light tanks and medium tanks with insufficient ERA or composite protection, as particularly late HEAT-FS rounds have extremely high penetration power. As time progressed, technology improved and rounds also improved in terms of lethality, accuracy and ballistic performance. Hi there The basic APCR shell is a tungsten penetrator, surrounded by a light aluminium casing, for maximum penetration. With APHE, if aiming at Russian tanks like the T-34, aim at the turret cheeks and it will go through, or the drivers hatch or machine gun port for some lovely ammo cook offs. 47733071 >>47732781 Shell hits mg on top and doesnt even detonate, gets hullbreak, gg. If you have questions about shells, click here. Will even penetrate the other side of a an opposing medium tank without any shrapnel, when shot into a side. HE rd not worth using unless you are Russian, HEAT rd dose not work for Germans and APRC rd is just as rubbish as it is for US and Russain tanks. Yeah. HESH rounds are available to most British vehicles from Rank V, and other vehicles in possession of an L7-derived gun. Unfortunately, most HE-based rounds are relatively useless against well-armoured vehicles and force their user to target flaws in an enemy tank design. Powered by Invision Community. We are constantly improving the armour penetration system in War Thunder, and right now, we can highlight two phases that have been expressed in its development, each of which is fair and correct in its own way. Especially on the Super Pershing. I can understand them wanting AB tanks to be able to take several hits without exploding. Generally, solid AP does not stop until it has exhausted all of its force and is capable of passing through an entire vehicle if this energy is not fully expended. They rely on different mechanics to normal rounds, but can prove particularly ineffective against heavy armour. Tried to go back to the more comedic routes of this series, but there's not … HE Grenades are available to vehicles with 'recoilless' cannon designs or other non-standard cannon designs. When we talk about tanks, the first things we will think about, is how powerful they are, they have … But in RB/SB AP/APCR should do more damage to compensate for our robot crews with max moral under all conditions. War Thunder: Ground Forces is the second phase of the War Thunder MMO. I've checked some penetration values on Wikipedia and they seem to be identical in War Thunder. I have the Super Pershing myself and i cant confirm this unless im overpenetrating my targets with apcr. I fire 90+% of my shots with this round. Unless I get an APBC round through the side of a Tiger II, I really can't kill them. In this case, we … Welcome to the Cold War, all Russain Tanks were again better then any other tank of that time, there will be secret documents to prove this somewhere lol. APCR shells are quite small and light compared to any other shell type (excluding APDS). I saw too many gunners, drivers, and transmissions stay green after getting hit by my M26E1 this weekend to accept any other possible explanation. In War Thunder, APC is best used as a short-to-mid range round for combatting angled armour that regular AP rounds may not easily penetrate. HEAT Grenades are available to vehicles with 'recoilless' cannons or other non-standard cannon designs. For the Pershings, T33 just laughed at everything. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. This self-propelled gun has good armour protection and excellent armament with its 122-mm D-49 cannon, which is a modification of the well-known D-25T, but with a higher rate of fire and its more punchy post-war APCR and HEAT ammunition, for auxiliary weapons it used two 14.5mm Vladimirov machine guns. Feb 23, 2020 @ 5:21am leKPz M41 BR 6.7 with stock APCR??? They finally give the T32 some APCR, only to nerf it to oblivion. Not that I've fired single APCR from Tiger II in battle, nor the tank needs buffs, just sheer curiosity. Proximity Fuse ATGMs can prove extremely effective against low-flying aircraft or helicopters, and utilise a similar proximity fuse concept to SAM missiles - although often ATGMs pack significantly more HE filler than SAMs do. 173k The Ammo to use with the M46 is the M82. January 30, 2021 at 12:40 am. The RNG chance of APCR causing secondary explosion in ammo racks was reduced in a recent patch, details were in a patch note... sorry it was mentioned in a patch note but can't remember if actual stats were also provided as to RNG change. There are a lot of … I don't know what to do. Players experienced in operating previous models of the KV series of tanks should have little to … SAMs are available to specialised anti-air vehicles such as the 2S6 Tunguska or the ADATS, which, notably, has multi-purpose missiles that are also effective against armoured vehicles. Unfortunately though, the fuse on a HEAT round must be extremely sensitive, causing the rounds to detonate even on bushes and wooden fences that other chemical rounds of high calibre have a chance to pass through. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War … © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. (Posted March 9, 2015). The biggest Problem is that most people use the ammo wrong. Recognized this as well. Now my 120mm HEAT just turns ammo racks red -_-. Küldd el saját … War Thunder RARE Tank – M24 Chaffee TL with T45 APCR War Thunder 1.55 Tanks Gameplay – New Skins & Rare Tank! The DM13 is one of many examples from german tanks where that is the only ammo type you … High-calibre HEAT-FS rounds will reliably hull break light tanks, a mechanic that can be applied against vehicles APFSDS is ineffective against. I have a small problem. HE ATGMs are only effective against light vehicles and missile carriers in most cases, despite packing large quantities of HE filler. Original question: What's the different between World of Tanks and Warthunder? <100meters should have a effect of 1 shot like the APHE or the other fragmentation of the bullets has, or veary least whne hiting the enemy ammo or crew should be able to 1 shot it. 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